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Welcome to TALKING NUMBERS with Paul Jansz. In this episode, Paul chats with our special guest Dr Lillian Nejad about how we can contribute to Mental Health Month. Dr Lillian Nejad is a clinical psychologist with over 20 years of experience, an author, and Founder of The Skills for Life, an online learning platform.

October is Mental Health Month, and the 10th is World Mental Health Day. In this special time, we have Dr Lillian sharing her experience and insights about how to look after our own well-being, connect with others, and be a leader who can navigate a team through these hard times

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The Topics

  • Mental Health Month
  • What’s Anxiety
  • Well-being programmes
  • Leadership
  • Change of mindset
  • Awareness of mental health
  • Stigma

Key Takeaways

I would like to think of mental health as being able to cope with the realities of life, being able to maintain your sense of well-being across several areas, no matter in good times or the hard times. – Dr. Lillian


Take anxiety as an example. It’s not good or bad. It’s about how we deal with it. – Paul


I think the main things that people have been struggling with are a lot of worries about a lot of different things, and that comes from a great deal of uncertainty about what the future holds, and feelings of not being in control. – Dr. Lillian


If you’re a leader, and you’re trying to help your employees or team, it’s extremely important for you to genuinely care about your team’s well-being for the initiatives to work. Because the research says, if your teams don’t believe that you really care, and you’re just doing it to tick a box, they won’t work. – Dr. Lillian


This is another fantastic way of connecting with your people, to make sure you don’t lose good people. We can’t afford to lose good people in a skill-shortage market. – Paul


Even though about half of us will experience a psychological issue at some point in our lives, people haven’t been open about it, and when society gives you the message, that the issue is something you hide, we often feel shame. That’s where the stigma comes from. – Dr. Lillian


You’re walking into a room with somebody that you don’t know; and trusting them with your problems, issues, and your vulnerabilities – there’s nothing more courageous than that. People need to understand that it’s an act of courage; it’s not an act of weakness. – Dr. Lillian

Useful Links

Dr. Lillian’s LinkedIn Profile:
Skills for Life:

How can we do better?

In this Mental Health Month, we hope you are taking good care of yourself and your loved one, and we hope this episode can inspire some helpful conversations. Please be nice to yourself, connect with the people you love, and reach out for help as early as possible.

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